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MH: At what age did you retire?

KK: I retired at sixty-five.

MH: You're sixty-five and that was what year?

KK: 1979.

MH: 1979. And what have you been doing in retirement?

KK: I played a lot of golf and pool.

MH: How did you get started in golf?

KK: Portland City Park.

MH: Had classes?

KK: Yeah. They offered lessons for us senior citizens, so I took advantage of it.

MH: How old were you then?

KK: Seventy-two.

MH: Seventy-two. You started playing golf. How come you didn't start earlier?

KK: I never had a chance.

MH: You never had a chance, and did you think it was a good game to get into?

KK: I did at that time.

MH: The Oregonian, since they were, you know, done by the Oregonian, they interviewed you, right?

KK: Yeah, they did.

MH: So you've been golfing since the age of seventy-two.

KK: Yeah, that's right.

MH: What happens at the age of eighty-five, Kaz?

KK: I had a stroke, and I almost give it up.

MH: So you can golf on any of the city courses?

KK: No.

MH: Free.

KK: Yeah, city courses, free, eighty-five and over.

MH: That's pretty good. What else did you do besides golf?

KK: I bowled.

MH: You bowled on a bowling league. Once a week, twice a week?

KK: I was bowling four times a week before I started golfing.

MH: And so then how often did you golf?

KK: Just about every day.

MH: Just about every day. Did you still have a garden at home?

KK: Yeah.

MH: So you worked in the garden. I understand that you had an accident. How did that happen? You broke your arm. How did you break your arm?

KK: Pear tree and the ladder tipped over, and I fell to the ground.

MH: How old were you then?

KK: Close to seventy-some.

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