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RP: Do you recall a gentleman by the name of Reverend Herbert Nicholson?

KK: Yes.

RP: I believe he took over the West L.A. Church before the war?

KK: There were just a very impressive couple I thought, you know, they seemed so kind and caring and Reverend Nicholson, we had stored some things at the church and he brought a refrigerator to us in camp.

RP: You had a refrigerator?

KK: Uh-huh. But that was I think maybe the second year or so.

RP: Right, and the (WLA United Methodist church) became kind of a storage area for families in the Sawtelle --

KK: Right, I think the social hall, existing social hall, was probably a storage area.

RP: You mentioned the refrigerator, what other items do you recall the family storing there?

KK: Well, my... many of the things were stored with a family, a couple that my dad worked for.

RP: At the store, market?

KK: No, gardening, his name was Wayne Farrington, and I believe he was a colonel, he became a colonel. But they eventually divorced so many of our things were dispersed, I don't know, lost, because he had gone off to war and then they were divorced and so I think we got some of our dishes back and a bed but not much else.

RP: Do you remember any particular items that you took to camp with you, any special things?

KK: I had a doll that I had gotten for Christmas and her name was Jo Jo. [Laughs] I still have her.

RP: So she went to camp with you too?

KK: But other than that I don't remember. I do remember that we went to Sears and got pants and things that were, you know, I don't believe we had any pants, long pants, and sort of I thought were kind of like cowboy clothes. [Laughs] I don't remember much else about what we took but I do remember that one outfit. And my mother must have taken her sewing machine because she sewed for us in camp.

RP: And she... you mentioned about her involvement with this designer and designing models, was that after camp?

KK: Oh, yes, way after. We were in... I was in junior high school, junior high, high school at that time and into college actually.

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