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RP: Were there other men in the unit that... you know, you were in this, initially grouped into the limited service unit. Were there other men there that had other issues, other discipline or other, maybe they had to wear eyeglasses or things like that that would have qualified them for limited service?

RD: Now, that I don't know. Like I said, most of the outfit that was in there, and those replacements that came from, I don't know how many came from back east, there was about six or seven or those, where they came from, what camp they came from, I forget. And why they were sent there, whether they were limited service or not, I couldn't tell you. But I know one of the, the guys that came there, he ended up marrying the daughter of the president of the bank there in Lone Pine. He's the one that, he's one of the bunch that I didn't care too much for. We didn't kind of get along with him, he's kind of, I don't know how you'd describe him. But otherwise, they were all there for some reason or other, I would imagine. I don't even know why Bobby was in there, or Johnny or anything. Of course, like Johnny went with me. He went in the general service, so evidently he had to be on limited service, too. He was always thin like I was, and blond hair, I had blond hair there, light blond hair. Most of the time, people would think we were brothers. We almost looked that much alike, tall and slim. That's what we tried to tell 'em, the MPs there, I mean, in the infantry there, that we were half brothers. And tried to get to, if we can't get to see each other, but they wouldn't go for it.

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RD: It, you know, like I told you, we went down to Camp Haan for a week or so before we, part before they sent us to the infantry, and we worked on the towers there. They had some of the pretty hard prisoners in there, and we had ammunition up there, we had the little carbines. And then they had the little outhouses out there, kind of sweathouses for the real ones that... what would they call 'em? Oh, what do you call it? You call when you get into trouble but they're, like they put you down in the cell, darkness and everything else?

RP: Like solitary confinement?

RD: Yeah, yeah, solitary confinement.

RP: The hole?

RD: They had a little, those little buildings like that. And I see guys come out at nighttime, sneaking some food to 'em, or water or something. Pay no attention to it. And I think we, I kind of remember going to, in there, going to the barracks there, going around and checking in there, some pretty rough-looking characters in there.

RP: Were those Italian or German POWs?

RD: No, they were just Americans.

RP: Oh, they're Americans?

RD: Yeah.

RP: At Camp Haan?

RD: Yeah. Yeah, these are guys that... I don't know what the hell they were in there for, maybe shooting somebody or some goddarn thing, or stealing or whatever, if they screwed up in the service or some way. Had a hard, had a bunch of hardcores there.

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