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RP: Tell us a little bit about what, what it was like to grow up in Bishop.

PF: It was a great place to grow up. I never felt unsafe. I walked to school when I was just in kindergarten. And I worked, when I was in high school, I worked at the drugstore and I got off at nine o'clock. I walked home at nine o'-clock at night, never felt unsafe at all. And you grow up with the kids in the schools and there wasn't a lot of crime. I don't remember crime unless it'd be the panty-raids that the guys did coming through the high school windows. [Laughs] Oh, that was funny. So anyway, it was a wonderful place to grow up.

RP: Before you started school, you had a babysitter.

PF: Yes, yes. Lottie Chamberlain. And my brother and I would catch a ride with the milkman on the milk truck, and we made all the stops with him of course until we got to Lottie Chamberlain's. And Lottie Chamberlain's was probably three blocks away toward Main Street. And my mother was on her way to work at the Inyo store. So she was walking and she walked faster than that milk truck went because of all of the stops. So by the time we got to Lottie's, we couldn't tell Mama goodbye anymore. She was too far down the street. And across from Lottie Chamberlain I remember a little old man, little old couple. His name was, oh, I was thinkin' of it the other... Glover, Glover. And, oh, I thought he was the most interesting man. He had all this junk in his yard and I thought it was treasures. I never saw so many neat things.

RP: Do you remember some of the items? What, what...

PF: Oh, one of them was the cage that you put on a light bulb for mechanics. And I thought it was the cage for an animal or something or other. Yeah, I was just so, so little. Oh, I can't remember his name. Glover? Anyway, then they moved. Evidently they got to where they had to be taken care of, couldn't stay in the house by themselves so they moved. And I was so sad. I loved that little old guy.

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