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AL: So when, when did you find out that you were leaving? That you and Celeste were gonna be sent to Miss Stuart? How did you find that out? Do you recall?

AS: The only way, way I found out is was that we were put in the bus and then we came to live with Miss Stuart and then Celeste and I, we were in the front room and Miss Stuart had a bunch of other foster children. And they all sat on the couch and they just looked at us. And Celeste and I were on another couch. And we were boo-hooing and crying. And Celeste says, "I don't want to live here. I'm a Catholic." She had her rosary.

AL: Were you going, were you involved at all or was Celeste involved in church activities at Manzanar? Was that how she became Catholic?

AS: Well, I think she went to, she, being so sociable, she went to the different churches with the other kids just, just to do something. And she did mention going to the different churches, like I think Buddhist and Catholic and yeah.

AL: Okay. And just for the record, could you give us her name also?

AS: Celeste, C-E-L-E-S-T-E, Loi was her middle name in the camp, L-O-I, and then her married name is Teodor, T-E-O-D-O-R.

AL: Okay. And your connection with Celeste, you said you became, or came after you were relocated to Miss Stuart's house?

AS: Yes.

AL: 'Cause you were not close to her in the, in the Children's Village?

AS: We were not close at all. I don't even remember her, seeing her in the camp.

AL: What is the age difference between you and her?

AS: Three years.

AL: And who's older?

AS: She is.

AL: Okay.

AS: Yeah, she was born in, in June 1936.

AL: Okay.

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