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RP: How long was he a police chief there? A year?

MS: No, most of the time. I think it was just a few months that he worked with the, Dr. Layton. He finally gave it up. It was too much. [Laughs]

RP: How did he, was, did Dr. Layton approach him to work with him?

MS: He must have, because I think he, being chief of police, the problems, Dr. Layton was involved or something. He knew Dr. Layton, I think, became friends, 'cause he was there. He lived there, right in camp.

RP: Layton did?

MS: Uh-huh. He was sent up by the Indian, is it Indian reservation from Washington? Isn't that the organization they have? 'Cause that was Indian property there, 'cause when the camp closed the government returned that to the Indian, what's the name? Something, Indian something.

RP: Indian Service.

MS: Services. I think that's how, I think that's, or the government sent. I don't know why, but they had the dollar a year man, that's what he was. You hear about the, something about, he wasn't there to make money. He was there studying, anthropologist studying the people's behavior. That's why he wrote that book. Did you, you ever seen that book? And it mentions about Ishii family and our family in that book, I think, that little paragraph or something in there, 'cause he was, my husband worked with him.

RP: And do you know what your husband did for him? Did he, did he go around interviewing people about their...

MS: I don't know just what he did. He used to go to work in the office and worked there during the day, so I don't know just what he was doing. Talking about, maybe answering questions when he was writing his book, probably, with his knowledge. He was interested in history. That's why we traveled all over the world. Only place we didn't get to was Far East. I didn't care to go there. We've been all over Europe and went to Japan several times and covered all of Orient. We went to Bangkok, Singapore, Malaysia, all there, then we went clear up to Europe, covered how many countries, then we went up to St Petersburg, Russia. We went up to Finland and Scandinavian countries. We went to Alaska, not only ship, but we got off the land, went clear up to Anchorage and way up there. We did a lot of traveling and we even, I think most interesting one, that Mediterranean cruise. We went to Spain and got a ship, went down the Mediterranean, past the, went to Gibraltar, and went to Africa and Tanzania, and we went to that underground Casbah, and then we went to Canary Islands, and we went to Cape, Caribbean, you don't say Caribbean. It's Caribbean. [Laughs] And at the time was right after the storm, so we covered St. Thomas and two of the islands, we couldn't go there 'cause there no electricity, the storm, so they took us to Venezuela, Caracas. So that was interesting. Usually they don't, then we went through the canal, Panama Canal and flew home from, where is it? Acapulco. Then the ship, the ship went back again from Acapulco. We went through the canal.

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