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RP: You went to school... you went to Cleveland to join your brother and you said you went to school there, too?

RK: Yes.

RP: Uh-huh.

RK: Yeah. Well he, I went to Case Western Reserve. Case Western Reserve University, that's what it's called. And the college I went to was Adelbert College. Within that university group, Adelbert was the college.

RP: And that was, you were working...

RK: I spent four years there.

RP: Oh, four years.

RK: Four years there. Then I transferred to Colorado and finished pharmacy school in Colorado. And that's where I met my wife.

RP: Wife.

RK: Yeah.

RP: So she didn't have a camp experience and you did?

RK: Yeah. But, it was, it was probably harder on them than it was for us. 'Cause the winters in Colorado where they lived -- they lived in the northeastern part of Colorado, a little town called Iliff -- colder, it was really cold.

RP: Not as cold as Manzanar ,though.

RK: Oh gosh, twice as cold. Twice as cold. It was really cold. And they had to milk their cows and they had cattle. They had to milk those every morning, every evening. Pick potatoes, pick the onions, husk the corn, all that. Yeah, it was a tough life boy.

RP: In Cleveland and Colorado did you experience any discrimination directed towards you?

RK: I never did. Even here we didn't. Even the Monday after Pearl Harbor, not really nothing. Cleveland no, Colorado, no. Uh-uh.

RP: So you came back to California and worked, went to work at USC?

RK: Let's see, I... yeah, I graduated Case Western Reserve in '49. And that September, I went to Colorado and I got out in '52. And I started work at USC in '52, yeah.

RP: What specifically did you do at USC? Pharmacy work?

RK: The usual pharmacy thing. Fill prescriptions...

RP: For the students. It was kind of a, it's a student pharmacy?

RK: Oh no, no.

RP: No students, no?

RK: See the L.A. County, the L.A. County Hospital is part of USC.

RP: Oh, okay.

RK: It's called USC Medical Center. But it was part of the L.A.... and I worked for the L.A. County Hospital. And I did the usual pharmacy thing there. Fill prescriptions, same, same old thing. No big deal.

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