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KP: Can I ask a question about the visit at Pomona? What were the circumstances of the physical... I mean, we've heard about people talking through fences and that sort of thing.

DK: Yeah, oh yeah. We had, we had to talk through a fence. We weren't allowed to get to really embrace or anything like that. Yeah, we talked through the fence.

KP: Were other people there doing the same kind of thing or was it just...

DK: At that same time, no, I don't think so. I know this other family came with them. The Garrels went, came with them. And they brought a cake, I remember. She brought a, Annie was a baker and she had baked a cake and she brought that, and we were able to get that. But, that...

KP: How did you, how did you get that? How was that...

DK: I don't know if...

KP: Did it pass through guards or do you remember?

DK: I don't remember. I just remember the cake that she had baked. But I know that we weren't allowed outside the fence and they weren't allowed inside, so...

KP: And the other question I have is how did things in Heart Mountain change for you when Sachi arrived?

DK: I had somebody to talk to. Yeah, before that I didn't have anybody to talk to. I had, I had made a few friends, girlfriends, but they're not my sisters. And when, and then when Sachi came I was so thrilled to have her there and have somebody to be able to talk to and be with. But then she didn't stay very long. [Laughs]

Off Camera: A few months, huh.

DK: Yeah. Yeah.

RP: Uh-huh.... okay.

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