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MN: Now, when you were at Manzanar, Fred Tayama got beaten up. Did Fred or his brother ever tell you or describe what happened?

HF: No, because that fighting was in another part of the camp, and I wasn't in that part of the camp. I was way up towards the end of the camp where the hospital was. See, Fuji was pregnant with Grace, so she was up there with, near the hospital, and so was... my mother had very bad arthritis, so she was up there also near the hospital. So we were living near the hospital, so when all this "riot" and all, fighting took place, I didn't know anything about it.

MN: But later on, did Fred or Tom talk about who they suspected beat Fred up?

HF: What?

MN: Did they, later, after the beating, did Fred or Tom talk about who they suspected beat Fred? Did they have their suspicions on who beat them up?

HF: Who did?

MN: Did they talk about who they suspected beat Fred up?

HF: No. They didn't talk about it. I knew Fred.

MN: So he never talked about how he got beaten up.

HF: No.

MN: Now, Togo Tanaka was also taken out of Manzanar for his protection and other JACLers were also taken out.

HF: Yes.

MN: Did Togo talk to you about getting death threats or threats? Was he frightened for his life?

HF: Well, that I don't know. But I saw Togo in Chicago later on. He had a bitter feeling about it.

MN: Now, Henry, a few years ago, a researcher found a declassified FBI document that lists FBI informants, and many of them are JACL names. What do you think about that?

HF: I don't know if there's that much truth to what they found out.

MN: Are you talking about what the JACL were telling the government, or are you talking about the document?

HF: Truth to government.

MN: So do you think they were getting unreliable information?

HF: Possibly.

MN: Did you ever get threatened for having a lot of JACL friends and also being a JACL member?

HF: No, no.

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