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MN: For the record, I'm gonna name your children. Joyce Shizuko, born before the war, Grace Yoshino, born in Manzanar, your son is... do you say the, is it Rackham?

HF: Rackham.

MN: Rackham.

HF: He was born in Farmingdale.

MN: How did you get, how did he get that name?

HF: What?

MN: Rackham.

HF: Rackham came from the name Arthur Rackham. Arthur Rackham was an artist.

MN: Does he have a Japanese name?

HF: He has a Japanese name, what is it now? I can't think of it now.

MN: Okay. How about Helen? Does she have a Japanese name?

HF: I think it's Yasuno.

MN: Yasuo?

HF: Yasuno.

MN: Yasudo?

HF: No, N-O.

MN: Oh, Yasuno. For Rackham. How about Helen?

HF: I don't think so, it's just Helen.

MN: Do you and Helen talk about art since both...

HF: No.

MN: No, not at all?

HF: No.

MN: Were you able to see some of her artwork before you lost your eyesight?

HF: You mean mine?

MN: Yes.

HF: Oh, yes.

MN: What do you think about her art?

HF: What?

MN: What do you think about her art?

HF: Well, I think her art has, has a lot in it. When I say a lot in it, there's a lot of feeling, there's a lot of ability.

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