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RP: You lived in Block 30, which was right at the corner of the camp right next to the highway. There was also a guard tower not too far from your block. George, you told me about an encounter you had with the Military Policeman there.

GU: Yeah. Well, I wouldn't call it an encounter, but we did talk to each other. There were about two or three other friends with me. And a guard was walking his route on the ground, and he was very friendly, and he, that's when I first learned about the tracer bullet. He opened up his ammunition and he showed us that every fifth bullet had a red mark on it showing that it was a tracer bullet. You know what tracer bullet is, right? At nighttime, when you shoot it, it has a streak of light following it. And that was the main thing I remember about that, other than the guard being friendly. He was a young man himself.

RP: Was he inside the fence or outside the fence?

GU: We were inside, he was outside.

RP: What type of weapon did he have that he opened up for you? Was it a rifle?

GU: Yeah, it was a type of... it was a rifle. I don't remember him wearing any sidearm. I think it was, he just had the rifle. It could have been that carbine, 30-caliber carbine.

RP: Was he curious about where you'd come from, or ask you any questions?

GU: You know, I don't remember much about what kind of conversation we had, other than him showing us the bullets. I'm sure we did, but I don't remember now.

LU: What grade were you in, then?

GU: Huh?

LU: What grade were you in?

GU: I had, I had just finished the seventh grade.

LU: Oh, seventh grade?

GU: Yeah. So I was thirteen. I had turned thirteen at the time.

RP: At that age, for boys, guns are pretty fascinating. I remember that age.

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