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RP: Let's talk a little bit about his nursery, the nursery that he had in originally in North Hollywood.

RM: Yeah.

RP: Was it a retail or wholesale nursery?

RM: Retail. Well, he did a little wholesale, too. But it was mostly retail. He had roughly 5 acres in there that he leased, so...

RP: And he grew what type of plants?

RM: All kinds. Bamboos and all the way down to roses.

RP: And he grew all those plants? He...

RM: No, he bought one, they brought 'em in a lotta times now because some people were making a business selling their smaller cans and stuff, you know. That type. But he had a hedge of, I remember, big hedge of tall thin timber bamboo, big thick stuff, back in there and he would chop out a piece every so often and use it for planting.

RP: So he had mother stock that he...

RM: Yeah, more or less all buried around. So the 5 acres were not really all developed into retail. He had some....

RP: Growing area.

RM: Yeah.

RP: And that was all leased land?

RM: Yeah. That's leased.

RP: Did you, did you work at the nursery when you were growing up at all?

RM: No, because I was young, too young. I don't think I even had to do any work 'til later on. When we came out of camp, we started. It was mostly, no, I would say no because I don't think so. We would go there all the time but mostly play. We'd run around trees and stuff, you know.

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