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RP: Tell us what you... you mentioned that your father sold his nursery?

RM: He sold the top part of it. He didn't... he leased it. So he didn't lease, he didn't renew the lease.

RP: I see. Did he sell his nursery stock, too?

RM: Yeah, everything.

RP: Everything to this other gentleman who put up the sign?

RM: Yeah, yeah. That's where he... he made quite a bit. He sold it, I understand he sold it to the airport, Lockheed, as camouflage.

RP: He sold the plants.

RM: Trees, plants.

RP: Oh, and they used it as camouflage at Lockheed?

RM: Well, that's what I understand.

RP: That's the story. Your house was rented?

RM: Yeah.

RP: So...

RM: It was leased, I guess it was.

RP: Uh-huh. Did you have much property that you had to--

RM: No, I just --

RP: -- personal affects and things.

RM: -- let 'em all... just probably like everybody else.

RP: Did anybody come to help you or support you? Caucasians, you know, who wanted to store things that...

RM: Well, the neighbors did, but that's about it.

RP: Uh-huh.

RM: Because everybody else, the Japanese were busy doing their own.

RP: Doing their own thing so there was no, there was no Buddhist temple or church to store items in the North Hollywood area?

RM: No. Jack Sergil stored some things. And also Doctor Sakaguchi's family, they had a house over there on... that was on, near Sherman Way and Sattuck Way.

RP: They had a house that they stored...

RM: It was a big building on, about this big here. And it was just for storage. So they had it chuck full in there I think.

RP: Japanese families were bringing their...

RM: Would put in there whatever... their family and some others.

RP: Uh-huh.

RM: That's the only one I know of.

RP: Did you bring items over there, too?

RM: No, I don't think so. We had just a few things.

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