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AL: And, that was my next question is how many children are in your family and what are their names? And if you can remember the years of their birth.

SK: There were, there were originally eight of us. Two of 'em died at childbirth, the very first two. And then, no, the very first one. And then my brother was... when was he born? Anyway, he was born and then there were five girls after that. And my brother was Tike. And then...

AL: How do you spell that?

SK: T-I-K-E. that's how, that was shortened his name, they shortened his name to Tike. It was Tairoku.

AL: Tairoku?

SK: Uh-huh.

AL: How do you spell that?

SK: T-A-I-R-O-K-U.

AL: Okay.

SK: And then there was Masako. And she was about two years younger. So there's about two, two and a half years between each of my, each of us. And then there was Kiyoko, and Sueko, and Matsue, and then there was a girl that was born between my sister and I. Her name was, I think her name was Hisako.

AL: Hisako?

SK: Yeah. And then I was, I was the last one.

AL: And what does Shimako mean?

SK: Island. Island child. And Nishimori means west fore, so my name is apropos. I was born on Bainbridge Island, on the West Coast. And we were among trees.

AL: Okay. Your sister, Matsue, what is her last name now?

SK: What is her, her...

AL: Is her name now.

SK: Watanabe.

AL: I know her. I know Matsue Watanabe. Okay. I was not making the connection that that was your sister.

SK: Yeah. She didn't come this year.

AL: That's interesting.

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