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KP: So you were only in Marysville about a month.

TT: Yeah, yeah.

KP: And then you shipped out for Tule Lake.

TT: Yeah.

KP: How did that go? Where did you go to get ready for that?

TT: With what little we had, we had enough to buy the pack, so pack our thing and we left at... they got a train station over at Marysville, that's all I remember. From Marysville overnight to Tule Lake, we got there the next morning. Then from there, they truck us from there to a block. I was in Block 19-17-D, I think it was.

KP: Had you ever been on a train before?

TT: That was the first time.

KP: What did you think?

TT: Hey, that rickety, dirty train, MP standing on both sides, long as the train was moving, you had to keep the shades down. Once you stopped you could open it up. But you know that track, click, click, you know? That rickety old train, the shades would go up, and I kid you not, they had people come down and, "Hey, you keep that down." [Laughs] But you know how we are, you're sixteen, seventeen, you cheat and peek.

KP: And it was the middle of the night, too.

TT: Oh, yeah, what can you see?

KP: So you arrived at Tule Lake in the morning.

TT: Early morning, yeah, around ten o'clock, nine, ten o'clock. It was daylight when we got there, that's all I remember.

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