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RP: So what are your, your most vivid memories about growing up here in Santa Monica? You mentioned that you used to --

DI: Oh, it was a great place growing up. I remember to this day that we had neighbors and after dinner we'd go, all meet out in the street and we'd play kick the can and hide and seek and that kind of thing. It was a great, great time.

RP: Where did you live in Santa Monica?

DI: Right at 508 Pier Avenue.

RP: Pier Avenue. Just east of Fourth Street. And there's a Washington elementary school there, but I started, I remember going to John Muir, which I think is still there at Lincoln and Ocean Park Boulevard. I think we also went to Garfield school. Eventually, years later, I remember when I was in high school, that became a continuation high school.

RP: Is the house that you grew up in still there?

DI: You know, I'm really not sure. A few years ago, I remember driving there and it was still there. But Santa Monica property is so valuable, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they were all apartment houses.

RP: Do you recall if you rented the house or did you all...

DI: We rented the house.

RP: Oh, you rented the house. And how far was it from the ocean? It doesn't sound like it was very far.

DI: Let's see. We walked up to Fourth street and then went down the hill to the ocean. Would it be about eight blocks, maybe? Eight, nine blocks.

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