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RP: Did you, were you able to get any information from your father about -- other than what you've just shared with us -- about his camp experiences at Manzanar? I mean, you were really just about, what, three or four weeks old when you went to Manzanar. And I would imagine you had a curiosity about finding out what that part of your life was about.

GK: Yeah, it's basically --

RP: What have you learned in the, in the intervening years about the camp, and where have you learned it from?

GK: You know, he didn't want to talk too much, so I had to talk to my uncles and aunts about what... many of my, my father's siblings also were in Manzanar. So they, they share the same type of experiences there. And some people, I understand, really enjoyed the life there, because you're fed, and many never had children until they were put into camp. And so many newborns were, you know, took place there. Like my younger brother was born there, and I have, my cousin was born there. So many babies. [Laughs]

RP: There were, I think close to six hundred babies.

GK: Six hundred, I see. Okay.

RP: Let's talk about who else was in the camp, of your extended family. You said your, one of your uncles was there.

GK: My father's second oldest sister's family was there, Kikuchis. And my... I guess my father's younger brother's family, he is also George, George Kikuta, Masaji Kikuta. And his two cousins were also there, Tanjis, yes. And I think other young, younger siblings were -- I'm not too sure where they were.

RP: So the entire extended family was at Manzanar.

GK: Right.

RP: You didn't have, you didn't have members at other camps at all, just at Manzanar?

GK: I haven't heard my father's siblings in any other camps, only Manzanar and Tule Lake.

RP: Tule Lake.

GK: Right.

RP: So everybody, all those siblings and their families all went to Tule Lake, too. Was there anybody that didn't go to Tule Lake amongst your extended family?

GK: Yes. Only, only group that went back to Japan from Manzanar are our family and the younger brother's family, and one of those two cousins' families.

RP: So people who went to Tule Lake were referred to as "no-nos."

GK: Right.

RP: Because of the fact that they answered some critical questions on a "loyalty questionnaire."

GK: Right.

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