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YW: There were a lot of people that lived in Colorado. Not just the people that moved into Colorado during the war, but people like my husband's family. They, they're, they were established there in Colorado.

RP: Right, they were already established there. And, because of the war hysteria and racism on the West Coast and the situation that developed with your family and your father with the FBI situation, there were, people were looking for a sanctuary, a place to go and seemingly the only state that really opened its doors was, was Colorado. And a lot in a large part due to the governor of the state, Ralph Carr.

YW: Yes, yes. There's just a book out now on the, what is it? The Politician Ralph Carr?

RP: Principled Politician: Ralph Carr.

YW: Principled Politician, yes. Have you read the book?

RP: No, I haven't.

YW: It's really good.

RP: Oh, have you read it?

YW: Yes. We went to the book signing and then we bought the book and I think I read it within the next day. It was very interesting. Once you get started you just don't want to put it down. He was quite a person.

RP: And, you know, in those, in those times, in those days it was really important to have somebody that you could rally around. So I imagine there's a great deal of appreciation and respect and admiration for Mr. Carr.

YW: It's interesting how I did not hear my parents --

RP: Talk about him?

YW: Uh-huh, talk about him.

RP: I guess he sacrificed his political career...

YW: He sure did, yes. He sure did. But I felt like we were treated pretty well.

RP: In Rocky Ford?

YW: Uh-huh. I mean, just personally I've been, I've just been treated, well, everywhere that I can remember, just my parents that had to leave the farm, but...

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