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JA: What do you remember about the riot that happened?

HF: The riot, I wasn't, I wasn't involved in the riot in any way, and the riot took place in an, altogether another area of where we lived. So from what I've... it was just hearsay that I know about, that there was a riot, that it took place, and it had something to do with the, with the... those that were for the... those that were for the -- I shouldn't say for those, but those that were against being, into the army, and then there were those people that were the "no-no boys" that were sent out to Tule Lake eventually, and so things like that. And then they had blamed the JACL for some of this happening. So I had my very good friend, Togo Tanaka was secretly taken out of camp by the police. But I think that if he had remained -- well, like Fred Tayama, another friend of mine, he was abused considerably. But Togo Tanaka, he wasn't hurt, and he left camp and he went to Chicago. But as far as the details of the riot, I, they said there was shooting there and all this, but I wasn't there to --

JA: You didn't experience it.

HF: I wasn't there to witness it.

JA: What do you remember about the "loyalty questions"?

HF: Well, well, the loyalty questions, there was... as I recall, I think there was a paper, a paper went around to say whether you were or you weren't, and to my recollection, those that, those that said that they weren't loyal are the ones that went to Tule Lake. Are you familiar when I say Tule Lake? Tule Lake was a camp that was way up by, by the Oregon border. So they were, they were sent up there and then from there, I'm not sure whether it was all of them or some of them were sent back to, they were sent to Japan on the Gripsholm, and then, I don't know what year it was, but some of them came back. When I say I don't know what year it was, it was fairly recent, some of them came back, they were permitted to come back.

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