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RP: Now you had a group of, I don't know if they were older guys or your age, but it was a group of fourteen guys that were...

VI: We had a group that was, it was mixed age, and I was always the youngest. See, one of the things that, advantage of being young and if you're fairly decent in sports, is you get to play with the older kids so they accept you. So I was always the youngest of the group. Like I think you're gonna interview Mr. Kaseguma? Now, he's six years older than me, but with the same group, you know. So they accepted me. That became a pretty close group.

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RP: So you were saying that yeah, you were really cohesive and very successful.

VI: Right, and then you know, I learned how to play bridge because the older people used to play cards and play bridge. And we were very sports-minded, we had two teams, we had dances.

RP: Was this all in Seattle?

VI: No, this is camp.

RP: Oh, this is camp.

VI: Camp, yeah.

RP: But you had a, but you were a group before camp.

VI: Well, not too much. In Seattle, you were a group with your baseball or basketball team, and that group stuck around pretty close together, because there were neighborhood, usually neighborhood teams.

RP: So the OTs really didn't take shape until...

VI: 'Til we went to camp.

RP: 'Til you went to camp. But you knew some of these guys before.

VI: Right, right.

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