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KL: When did you graduate from high school?
KO: '61.
KL: And what did you do after that?
KO: Well, after start working... I went to Santa Monica City College a little bit. But same thing, I went back, the professor talk about war, I don't like it. So I never go back.
KL: What were you studying at City College?
KO: Commercial art.
KL: And you said you got jobs? What kind of jobs?
KO: I was just doing, helping my dad gardening, landscaping.
KL: And did you work as a landscaper for... were those always your jobs? That was your career?
KO: Yeah, we had it good.
KL: Did you guys have a name for your business?
KO: No, me and my dad. I don't know how we did it, but I guess we were hungry. [Laughs] Big apartment, I don't know how we carried those heavy stuff. Those days, no labor people, fifty, sixty, seventy.
KL: Who were your clients? Were they like in people's homes or businesses?
KO: Just working people.
KL: Around the Sawtelle neighborhood?
KO: It was nice. Then the last one, we helped my friends, you know, Ann Margaret?
KL: What is the name?
KO: Ann Margaret, yeah, the movie actress?
KL: She was nice, real nice. And the husband, Roger Smith, in 77 Sunset? Did you watch that? No? [Laughs] Real nice actor. Big name, you know, Ann Margaret and stuff.
KO: No, that hillside, ten acre house. Well, they're nice, come on, come on, real nice people. They don't act like, hey, I'm a big actor.
KL: How did your dad feel about that business? Did he like it or was he sad about it?
KO: No, he didn't it too much. You know, he's an office worker, he had to do only gardening. I didn't like it. When I was young, I hated it. Said, "Why I have to do this kind of job?" My brother never touched it, dirt.
KL: Yeah, I was gonna ask what your brother's job was.
KO: He hated it. He tried a little bit, "No, I'm not gonna do it."
KL: What did he end up doing with his life?
KO: Engineer. He went to school and then he went to the Air Force.
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