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KL: Where was your, what, say your father's name again?

MU: Ihei.

KL: Ihei. Where was Ihei from?

MU: He was from the same prefecture, Kagawa-ken.

KL: Did he know your mother before she came?

MU: I don't think so. I don't think so.

KL: What brought him here?

MU: His brother was here too, and the relatives were here.

KL: Who was older?

MU: My uncle, Teisuke, was older.

KL: Do you know if they had other brothers or sisters?

MU: I don't think he had any other sibling. Mother's side, well, my mother had a brother and a couple sisters. My aunt, I don't know too much about her family background other than that.

KL: Was she from Kagawa also?

MU: She was from Kagawa-ken.

KL: Did, where did she and Teisuke marry?

MU: Probably San Francisco when she came over.

KL: She was a "picture bride" also?

MU: I think so.

KL: Before we started the camera, we were talking about how your mother felt about coming to the United States. What did she tell you about what it was like to come?

MU: She wasn't very happy. [Laughs] With all the farm work, she wasn't very happy. But after the war, or during the war, she became a Christian and she was able to help her family back in Japan get civilized by sharing her faith, and so she was happy that she was able to come.

KL: Was she exposed to Christianity in Japan?

MU: Yes. Her father was a Christian. He was living in Tokyo, and one day, once, I guess it must've been Sunday, he took her to church. He was sitting toward the front and she was in the back, and he turned around and she was nodding, and he was upset and never took her back to church. And she regretted that very much.

KL: Do you know why he was a Christian?

MU: I don't know. He was a member of a well-known Christian leader, what's his name, Abine... his name was...

KL: How do you spell Abine?

MU: A-B-I-N-E, Abine. Japanese names are easy to, they just go in syllables.

KL: Once you know the rules.

MU: [Laughs] Yeah.

KL: Why was, what was he known for?

MU: I guess he was a quite... I don't know whether he was well-known, but he was a very staunch Christian. That's about all I know.

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