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KL: You, Jerome closed earlier than the other camps. Do you know why?

MU: I think some of the people were relocating, and the Rohwer, where we were transferred to, people were leaving camp also, to go to school or to relocate, and so I think the number became smaller, so they combined it.

KL: What do you recall about traveling to Rohwer or having to move again?

MU: Huh?

KL: What do you remember about leaving Jerome and going to Rohwer?

MU: I don't remember much.

KL: How did Rohwer compare with Jerome? How was it different, how was it similar?

MU: I don't think there was much difference. In both camps we were, our barrack or our block was at the end, at the edge of the camp. I don't think there was much difference. People in Rohwer were from mostly Stockton. Well, there were people from southern California, too, but...

KL: Did you have a job in Rohwer?

MU: No.

KL: What was a typical day in Rohwer? What did you do with your time?

MU: [Laughs] I helped take care of my brother. I didn't have a job of any kind in Rohwer, so I didn't do much, I guess.

KL: Did you take classes ever, in either camp?

MU: No, no.

KL: You, we were talking about the questionnaire and stuff. Do you, what were your thoughts on people who went to Tule Lake? Did you --

MU: Tule Lake?

KL: What was your take on that question of people answering "no-no" or going to Tule Lake?

MU: I could understand their feeling to question their loyalty. And of course, that irritated people, to have their government question their loyalty. I think some of them went to Tule Lake answered no just to oppose or show their feeling, how the government was treating them, so I didn't criticize them. I said, well, if that's the way they feel.

KL: What about people who went into the military from the camps or after relocating? What did you think of that?

MU: I thought they were very patriotic. They were citizens of the United States, that was part of their responsibility.

KL: Were you close to anyone who made either of those decisions?

MU: No, no.

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