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KL: Are there other individuals that you remember from camp? You mentioned your neighbors, I asked you about 'em, and your friends from school.

DW: I remember --

WJ: There was Millhorn, he was...

DW: I remember the name, yeah.

WJ: ...in mechanics or...

DW: The shop, maintenance shop.

WJ: ...area of the camp. He had a daughter named Nancy who was my age, and a couple of older boys.

KL: A gardener, you said?

WJ: Who?

KL: Who was Nancy?

WJ: Nancy Millhorn.

DW: One of the families there, yeah.

WJ: Her dad worked in the maintenance department as far as...

DW: They were Caucasians.

WJ: ...plumbing and everything working.

DW: What was the name of the little Japanese girl that worked with Mother at the house?

WJ: Kathleen.

DW: Kathleen. Because she was typically beautifully Japanese, but she was Kathleen.

WJ: And she was, you asked -- Mother swears that when she went to work for us, she couldn't reach even the lower shelves of the kitchen cabinets. By the time she left, she'd put stuff in the top shelf. However it was, she grew or just learned to stretch.

KL: How old was she, do you think?

DW: She was young.

WJ: She was nineteen or something like that, twenty.

DW: Seventeen or... no, she wasn't that old.

WJ: She was out of high school.

DW: Well, when she first came to work for us, I think she came after school. But then she would have been a senior, maybe.

KL: She did housework?

DW: Yeah, just helped Mom. Babysat us, you know...

KL: Kept you out of the boxes...

DW: No, we have a picture, I don't know where it is, but a picture of Kathleen standing on the stoop of the barracks where we lived, the porch. You guys have that picture?

JJ: We had some pictures that I can't locate, that were taken possibly in the yard of the barracks, but I've got to go back and look again, and (Carol) said she would double-check our pictures.

WJ: I don't think we've got it.

DW: I don't think I have any.

JJ: I haven't seen 'em in a long time, but I do remember seeing them.

DW: Well, I moved to California before my mom died, and so you guys were still closer. So any pictures she had, hopefully you guys have, 'cause I don't have any of those from Rohwer. I just remember seeing that picture of Kathleen.

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