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KL: There actually was a shooting pretty early in Manzanar. So you have recollections of that?

GM: Yeah, that, I was telling one of my friends, too, that I think the father was an artisan, he used to cave, make things out of these wood, driftwoods and all that. And his son supposedly went underneath the barbed wire to get some material for his father, that's what I understood. No, that wasn't it?

KL: Well, that could be the same story.

GM: He went out to get some wood and all that, this was not that riot kind of thing.

KL: No, this was early.

Off camera: No, no, it was, according to Hikoji Takeuchi, they didn't have the fence up yet, and his father had passed away two years earlier. So it might be another story that I'm not familiar with, though.

KL: When do you remember hearing that story?

GM: I didn't realize it was two years... yeah. But I just remember hearing something about a guy getting, he was a teenager or something. Was that right, a teenager?

KL: Yeah, the guy who was shot was a young man.

GM: And the story I heard was he went beyond the fence to get some driftwood or something like that for his father. That could have been a made up story.

Off camera: Well, it's interesting because there's enough, I mean, that is pretty close to accurate, but it's just changed a little bit. So it's probably the same incident.

GM: But the guy wasn't trying to run away or anything like that?

Off camera: No. He was trying to get lumber to make his mother some furniture.

GM: Oh, okay.

Off camera: But the important part of that is that your memory of it is based on something. So your memory is actually important.

Off camera: Yes, yes.

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