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KL: How did you leave Manzanar? What were the circumstances?

KM: War ended in August. And my father left and went to work for Mr. Nishi. Once he was settled...

KL: Was this your neighbor from before the war?

KM: Yes. They came back to the same property because they had a friend who watched over it for them. And so he came... he didn't come back, he waited in L.A. and we came out.

KL: Your dad?

KM: Yeah. And he picked us up and we went to Mar Vista again.

KL: How much before you did your dad leave?

KM: Not very long, like two weeks.

KL: Three months?

KM: Probably weeks, not months. And Mr. Nishi gave him a job, so we worked for him.

KL: Do you have his first name, Mr. Nishi?

YI: Kazuo.

KM: And then he went to work for Dan Campbell at my father's old place. And then he worked for Campbell until Campbell sold, and Dad went to work as a gardener.

KL: When did you leave Manzanar?

KM: September.

YI: September of '45.

KL: How had the... where did you live when you came out?

KM: In Mar Vista, on Grandview. Mr. Nishi was doing gardenia and celery.

YI: Tell her that's where we came to the, the cow incident.

KM: That was the place where the cow came.

KL: That was on Grandview?

YI: Yeah.

KM: It scared us because being not cowgirls. [Laughs] We yelled.

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