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RP: I wanted to introduce this gentleman, George Carlisle.

Off Camera: George comes to recruit Grandpa.

KN: Yeah. George Carlisle, the big land owner that Grandpa Nakashima worked for him for years. And he needed somebody to harvest his grapes so he came all the way to Ogden, Utah, to tell Grandpa to come home. Yeah. And then Uncle Percy had a ton and a half truck huh? So, the whole family put their belongings on that one and a half truck and they all came home to Florin.

Off Camera: You all didn't come back together though. Grandpa and Uncle Percy probably came first and you came later?

KN: Yeah, we came... little by little they all came back to Florin.

RP: And he made, George made two trips.

Off Camera: He made more than one trip didn't he?

KN: Yeah.

Off Camera: 'Cause he came and he brought a truck and...

KN: Last one the truck was, I ride in the front and I got car sick coming all the way.

Off Camera: You needed a truck to bring all your stuff. He made more than one trip.

KN: Yeah.

RP: So was, was Grandfather, Grandpa Nakashima, was he a little bit reluctant to come back to Florin?

KN: Yeah, 'cause George Carlisle come to tell him to come home 'cause he needed somebody to do his grape.

RP: Uh-huh. It sounds like the family got split up though. Eventually there were some members of the family that stayed in Utah and other...

Off Camera: Yeah. Roy, Nase, and Nobuko stayed in Utah. And the rest of you come back to Florin.

KN: Yeah, we all came back but three of our family stayed in Utah.

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