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RP: Do you recall anything, any details about where you, where you went to pick up the bus?

KY: You know, it's a funny thing, I don't know why I still can't remember. But I can't remember that part of my history, how I got to where, where we had to board the bus. I can't remember that part. Isn't that funny? It just, it's blank in my mind. How in the hell did I get there? It seems like a simple thing but it's just blocked out of my mind and so I couldn't remember how I got to the place. I think it was on Lincoln someplace from here, where I used to live. And how I got to where we had to board the bus, that part of me, it's a total blank. I can't recall what I did.

RP: Do you recall your, any, your feelings or emotions that day when you left Santa Monica?

KY: Not really. It was, it was a sad case having us meet the bus that took us there but, but I don't recall any sadness or anything like that, emotionally, of having to leave my house. All I know is that it was a new part of my life that I am faced with, that I'm gonna go, go board the bus and go to some camp somewhere inland. But things like that I wasn't concerned about too much. I knew it was gonna go someplace but where, I don't know.

RP: When you first got there, Kaz, you were, were you...

KY: Huh?

RP: ...which, which block were you assigned to?

KY: Seventeenth block.

RP: Okay. And do you remember your specific block address, the barrack?

KY: Yes, 17-13-1.

RP: Seventeen-Thirteen-One. Okay.

KY: It was the end, end apartment.

RP: Right.

KY: Block 17 and thirteenth building, and one, the first barrack. 17-13-1. And you know, when we were assigned that barrack or... it was no bigger than this living room. That's how small it was. And here we had six in our family, four children and our parents. Had six and they assigned another young couple to stay with, in the same room. Can you imagine that? They finally were moved to another building but here we were eight kid, eight people in that small room which is no bigger than this living room. I don't know how we did it, but that's what they assigned us. Talk about crap quarters. I hope they got out quick enough to make up the difference. But, I thought Jiminy Christmas, eight of us in that one room. It was just enough room for our beds to go in there. Eight beds. That's terrible. But it was an emergency so that's what they did I guess. They finally moved them to another barrack.

RP: And you stayed in 17-13-1?

KY: Yeah.

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