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JA: When you were at camp, a number of -- well, I'm getting ahead of myself. Were there any consequences of your answering 'no-no'? What was the response?

HT: Yes, eventually we were sent, there again we were segregated in Manzanar, and we were sent -- those group were sent to Tule Lake, the family was sent to Tule Lake. And then as the war progressed, I was -- my mom and my kid sister remained in Tule Lake, and I was sent over to Bismarck. So we were separated.

JA: And all this was because you answered 'no' and 'no'?

HT: Right.

JA: So you never went back to Manzanar?

HT: During the war?

JA: After you went to Tule Lake and then Bismarck, you didn't see Manzanar any more?

HT: No, no, until way later.

JA: Where did you go from Bismarck?

HT: From Bismarck, we were sent to Japan. Yeah.

JA: How did you feel about that?

HT: I didn't like it. I always felt that it was very unfair because of my belief.

JA: When were you allowed to return to the United States?

HT: Oh, years later.

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JA: You were talking about your ability to speak Japanese.

HT: Yeah. I served as an interpreter for the forces in Japan. So while I was over in Japan, I had a good job, cushy job.

JA: So how long were you there?

HT: I was out there for about six years, I guess.

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HT: After I came back? Yeah, yeah. Well, I've always took interest in history and as I read books and so forth, I realized history and costuming went hand and hand. I found it that way anyway, and I liked that and I fell into it.

JA: So what did you do? What was the nature of bringing those together?

HT: Beg your pardon?

JA: What kind of work were you actually doing then?

HT: Well, so I was in the costume line, costume end.

JA: For theater or --

HT: Yeah, yeah, uh-huh. For the studio, and there again, in spite of all the happenings that had happened to me, I keep meeting people who are so nice. I've met so many nice people. I've been very fortunate.

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