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JA: What do you remember about the train ride to Manzanar?

HT: Oh, that was my first train ride, for once. I thought I was going to enjoy it. [Laughs] But what a joke that turned out to be. All the blinds were drawn down, and the train was packed. We were not allowed to raise the blind nor raise the window. That was one thing. It was very uncomfortable. And other than that riding the, riding the train was my first, first-time experience, I didn't feel anything other than that except for the fact that they had two MPs on each side, one on each end. And that's another thing, and they had bayonets on the thing. Why they had bayonets, I'll never know, but they did. But the MPs, they were strict. If we even tried to raise the darn blind, oh, they'd be on us right away. No raising the blind nor the window. So it was very stuffy. The MPs, other than being strict, I think they were nice. I guess having the bayonet on their rifle was just an order and they are just following order. But from our eyes, you know, it's why? There again, why?

JA: Once you got to Lone Pine on the train, then did you go by bus, or how did you get to Manzanar from Lone Pine?

HT: We got, we boarded a truck and I believe some, they had a bus there, too. That's not in my memory. But I know I had to get on a truck. We got off the train, got in the truck. We were all standing up, and from there we went to Manzanar.

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