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FA: Dave, at the time of your arrest and the whole resistance, the Heart Mountain Sentinel and the JACL. Let's stick with JACL. JACL was saying, was saying some very nasty things about you, that you guys were delinquents, weak-kneed, draft dodgers. What did you feel about all that? How did that make you feel?

FA: Well, from the JACL, we more or less expected what they're gonna say about us because we were 100 percent against what they were trying to propose.

FC: Which was?

DK: Which was comply with the selective service.

FA: That was expected, but still, how did it make you feel and what did you think about it?

DK: Well, it made me feel kind of betrayed because of your own group trying to work with the government, or in fact, they're the ones that instituted the drafting of Niseis from the camp. I think the WRA was against that.

FA: Did you know any JACL people in Heart Mountain personally, and did you try talking about this?

DK: No, I didn't know... well, there were members I know, some of 'em, but they're inconsequential.

FC: The day you got your draft notice, how did you, did you get it in the mail, was it a telegram, hand-delivered to you? How did you get your draft notice and what did you do immediately upon receiving it?

DK: Draft notice came through the mail, and says, "Oh my goodness, maybe they answered my inquiry." No, it was just that you are supposed to report to the... what did they say, induction and physical examination. So I just tore it up.

FA: Didn't change your mind at all.

DK: No, I didn't change my mind at all.

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