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FA: Let me, let me go back a little bit. You must have been twenty-eight years old.

SH: Someplace in there, yeah, you're right, but I don't exactly remember. But I was in that area, yeah.

FA: You're seventy-nine now.

SH: Yeah, right.

FA: So you were twenty-eight then.

SH: Okay.

FA: That was fifty-one years ago.

SH: Uh-huh.

FA: To the day. What were you doing? What was your job?

SH: Gardening.

FA: Landscape gardener?

SH: Just, yeah, well, that was in there, but the gardening was a lot of money in there, at

the time.

FA: Uh-huh. Did you work for your father?

SH: No. Independent. Because it's, it's a business.

FA: How were you doing? Were you doing well?

SH: Pretty good. Because, only thing is, you know, you set up a kind of a contract you make with the owner of the house. Just like the way the doctors are doing there, you know. So many accounts you had, the more income you have. But you just say, "I'll give you this service." "Fine." That's what they want, that's it. I walk, I don't think I walk around.

FA: That's exactly what my father did. My father did the exact same thing.

SH: He did?

FA: Yeah.

SH: But you, don't kid yourself. There's money in that. You say, "This I'll do, okay, at this." Sounds like small money, but it isn't. You add all day, you got pretty good.

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FA: Let me ask you, were you, were you married at the time, Sam?

SH: No.

FA: Single.

SH: Single.

FA: Living alone, or living with your family?

SH: Family.

FA: Family, your parents.

SH: Yeah.

FA: Okay, in Hollywood.

SH: That's right.

FA: Okay.

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