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FA: So, tell me about how you met Ben through Mike.
SK: Oh, I was continuing my college education when I went down to the University of Utah. And at that time, of course, housing was almost nil for students. So Mike and Etsu put me up with them for a while. And Ben had, Ben was at that point, you had come back for a lecture or something, had you? Or preparing for lectures, but anyway he was in the, in the area and Mike and Etsu had invited Ben and his... or a girlfriend that they... or friend they had found for him for that evening. And I had invited a friend of mine and we had dinner at their place. That was my first evening that I met Ben. And after the dinner we went -- this is something we haven't discussed for some time, isn't it? [Laughs] We went to a place called Soldair or someplace where they had dancing. And I have to admit that those were the years when Ben tried dancing and I, we're not great dancers either. [Laughs] At least, it wasn't one of his, his social assets, I'd say. But Ben and I spent more time together on the dance floor, I guess, than my date and myself or his and his date. And so it was through Mike and Etsu that I met him, yes.
FA: Ben, this is the side, I hear you were very persistent?
BK: [Laughs] I was always stubborn.
FA: 'Cause you went to Idaho and showed up in Idaho and you brought, what did you bring? Do you remember what you brought?
BK: Well --
SK: I told him, you just as well to --
BK: I was just fresh out of the army so I was smoking cigars and drinking beer and I put a six-pack of beer in the refrigerator and I didn't realize then that they were Mormons. [Laughs] I think I almost...
SK: No, you didn't. [Laughs] I think I was more, I think, I think the family was always in a state of shock, but whatever. He wasn't the normal boyfriend. He wasn't like all the other nice...
BK: I made a heck of an impression. First impression.
SK: Yes, you did. It was an impact, I'd say. [Laughs]
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