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FA: When -- you did not go to the trial.

GK: No, uh-uh.

FA: So tell me, where were you, what were you doing when you first heard the word of the verdict?

GK: That they were -- well, I was in, we were in Laramie in camp there, Heart Mountain. And I guess Kozie, Kozie Sakai and Art, Frank's brother, they were keeping us in touch, so when they got the verdict, and my husband got two years. Yeah, two years.

FA: Where were you and how did you receive word?

GK: They came to tell us, I mean the people that went to court to hear the verdict and everything. And I think it was Frank -- I mean, not Frank. Frank's brother Arthur and Kozie and those people went, and they came back and told us.

FA: Do you remember were you were, what you were doing?

GK: I think I was just in my unit.

FA: And, Gloria, when they told you, "Mrs. Kubota, they found your husband guilty," what was your reaction?

GK: Well, I accepted it because I didn't think that anybody would get off. I wasn't surprised, in fact, I was surprised than he didn't get longer than the other people because being he doesn't have citizen, but they asked him why he was, he says, "Well, I have two children born in this country. As a father I am interested in their welfare, they have rights," and he stuck by that which he really believed in so he said he was really doing it for his children's sake, too.

FA: Did you admire him?

GK: Well, I always thought -- you know, when I first met him, it was funny 'cause he'd tell stories and I just believed him. He was good storyteller, and he used to tell fortunes. I mean, he went to China and learned to tell, read your hands and stuff, or look at your face and tell you what's going on and stuff. And when we'd get together when he wasn't teaching, we'd have parties like in -- and he'd tell us, and I admired him. I thought, "Gee, this man knows a lot," which he did, rather because he was older, quite a bit years older than I am. And the people that I knew, my age, looked like they didn't know as much, 'cause this guy just knew it. [Laughs] But he was a good storyteller, too, I guess. But yeah, I admired him for sticking up and helping the Issei people to understand, 'cause he was, he worked for the churches and stuff, and so he was known quite a bit. So whenever anybody had problems, they used to come to him anyway, think, what do you think of this or that. So I was glad that he was able to help the Niseis.

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