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ET: Today, we attack Muslims, and I don't think we should. I mean, that's the kind of thing... I would say [inaudible] we should separate them, but just cannot isolate them, big group like Muslims, that's a huge, huge group of people. And I maintain that I'm a Christian, and it's a great religion, and the teaching that I have. Only thing is, I'm beginning to see some of the other things. I make a trip in Japan, and start to see the real teaching of Buddhist religion, but I have not yet had a cause for changing my religion. I think we can all survive thinking that any religion always have the so-called, kind of faith of creating better society for next generation, not for himself, not for present, but then always work toward, I think this is something that we said that, that the leadership Spokane, and I know he was interviewed on that. I think I'm beginning to see that Heidi and I were in religion that's a little bit off color from Buddhists. It's Zen headquarters, and our friend was, happened to be in that religion, so he took us to the headquarter, and we were so well treated. But to guess who was the one that actually tried to talk to us and explain to us, he had a perfect Oxford English. That's the kind of society we live in now.

AD: Now, Heidi, what about you in terms of why you think it's important for young generations to appreciate their freedom? You had your freedom taken away; kids don't know what that means now.

HT: Now or when I was young?

AD: Now. Kids today don't, they've never had their freedom taken away, so why do you think they should know your story?

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ET: You want me to answer that? I know her answer. Actually, the faith, maybe. And I think faith in people, probably, in family, kids, grandkids, and these are things that you want to keep it as strong as possible. You want, the same thing as I was saying, I think you try to create a better relationship for future, better sort of a world for next generation. Never try to do it to yourself. I think, I told the leadership of Spokane group that, "Try to become rich is not the real thing. You're going to try to become rich. If you do the other things, you're working toward a better future, you will automatically rewarded with whatever you need. It's kind of a faith that you just want to keep up.

AD: Do you think that's why your generation was patient during the evacuation for the next, to make things smooth for the next generation?

ET: I believe it. Like I don't know, I don't really ask my children what they think about that. My son is a little bit more concerned with that because of the fact that he is the bread-earner in his family. My daughter probably is the same, not as much, but she has tendencies to, of course, get away from their faith a little bit differently than we feel. It's kind of a complicated thing, but I think when I say faith, faith in good relationship is really important. I don't think you really... like leadership Spokane, we talk about, "Who makes you? Are you reading all these methods of becoming a great leader?" That doesn't happen. People makes it happen. It's a faith, a kind of relationship that develops into that. This is why all these candidates working, but then I don't see the real candidates come from the people. I always think that Tom Foley would be excellent for... I hope I won't cause Tom a lot of problems, but then he's the type of people that I really trust, and I keep my faith in having him as a good person. And this is what makes leadership Spokane very important. Because there are so many great people working. Out of that, they will select somebody, and that's the leader, the real leader. Not because he makes it, he has all the method, and ways that we qualify for leadership. I don't think that's going to happen. People have to decide that.

AD: Interesting.

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