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TI: Now going back to your life, so after the war, let's pick up your story. So you were talking about going to the University of Denver. But what did you do after that?

JU: Well, I went to seminary at Iliff for three, four years. Took a long time to educate me. No, I did two programs. I did the Master of Theology program and finished that, and then I prepared for Doctor of Theology program. And I'd done all the work and then they gave me one of their fine scholarships. And the only, the only stipulation on that was that I go to "a well-known graduate school." And Iliff is not well-known, so that was out. And I was two-thirds through that program, and all I had to do was finish a dissertation. So they said, "Well, go anyway. You've got to go into some good place." And so I applied at Chicago and at Columbia. And Columbia answered first, and so I went to Columbia (for a PhD). And then, of course, the scholarship paid for tuition, but I had to make a living. And I had been ordained in the Methodist Church. (So I took a job at the Japanese Methodist Church).

TI: That must have been quite an experience to go to New York, Columbia University.

JU: Yes, it was.

TI: You're a young man.

JU: Absolutely, absolutely.

TI: It must have been a fantastic time.

JU: And I had gone through all that very quickly. So yeah, I started when I was twenty-three in the graduate program.

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