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MA: So when you were on the bus, did you know what was happening, or were you aware of what was going on?

HC: When we were on the bus, nobody knew where we were going, as I recall. And the bus, the person who was the leader for the bus said, "Well, we don't know where we're going, but pull down the shades and we're gonna go. And everybody be quiet, there's to be no extra noises, and we'll get through this." And when we get there, then we could, we could be, visit in a, we could talk, talk out loud. So there was a lot of whispering going on on the bus. And my little brother was crying a little bit. He had the measles and he wasn't very comfortable. So it was really, relatively a quiet bus ride from Berkeley. We went down Ashby Avenue and then across the bridge, Golden Gate Bridge, I remember all these places 'cause we had done all these things as, my parents had taken us to all these places. And we went through San Francisco and we ended up at Tanforan racetrack. And we had to wait, the bus had to wait until the gates were open, and then we inched through and then when the bus got all the way through, then the gates went clank shut. I thought, "Oh, here we are, inside an enclosure, just like at the, inside of a zoo. Yeah, it was, it was... I wasn't very old, but I was aware a little bit about what was going on, but nobody said anything in so many words. Then the person, then somebody got onto the bus and said, "We're here now, and you'll have to take your things with you and get into the line and get, get your, get your shots and get your, make sure you have all your shots and make sure you've done all your, all your ID stuff. And make sure you have, they'll make sure that you have no contraband in your luggage, no radios, no..." what else? No cameras, no, I can't remember what else, contraband, especially shortwave radios. And so, so we had to find our stuff and wait in line.

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