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MA: So going back a little bit, I wanted to talk a little bit about your high school experience. And at that point, you had mentioned earlier that you developed a sense of, that you really liked art when you were in St. Ann's.

TN: Uh-huh.

MA: When you were in high school, did you pursue art as a hobby?

TN: Well, as far as I can remember back, I guess starting in high school, I did like to draw a lot. And so I always knew in the back of my mind that I was gonna be an artist. And in high school, I did some paintings that they actually hung up on the walls, I took a lot of art classes and did very well in it. So when I got out of high school, there was no questioning what field I was gonna go to.

MA: How did your father feel about you pursuing a career in art or in that field?

TN: Well, my father was not very talkative about my career, but I'm sure he was very pleased that I went to college and that I worked myself through college. He tried to help us as best he could, but he just didn't make that much money. And my sister also went to college, and she became a nurse. It worked out pretty well.

MA: And you attended the University of Utah?

TN: Utah, uh-huh.

MA: So how, what types of jobs did you do to support yourself through college?

TN: Let's see. I did gardening work in the beginning, and that was backbreaking, it was very hard work, I remember that. But later in my college, I got a job at the Hotel Utah parking garage, and that was parking cars for people that came in after midnight. And, of course, there weren't too many, so I could study and work at the same time, and that, that job basically got me through college.

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