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RD: And so you had friends with you in Heart Mountain that you had met in Santa Anita? No?

KS: No, I didn't know no... until I joined the Boy Scouts, Troop 333. And Donald, who came from Santa Anita, San Jose to Santa Anita, he ended up in my block, 29, and I met him for the first time when he joined Troop 333. And Shig Yabu joined Troop 333, we're all troop members, Boy Scout 333 Troop members.

RD: What did the Boy Scouts meat to you there?

KS: My camp experience is based around Scouting and the troop activities. Those were the highlights of my stay at Heart Mountain.

RD: Do you think it would have been significantly different if you hadn't been a Scout?

KS: Definitely, because they had little ruffian groups out there that I was running around with before I joined the Boy Scouts. And if the Boy Scouts weren't there, I probably would have continued messing around with these little delinquents from Los Angeles. [Laughs]

RD: So there were little gangs?

KS: Well, you know, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, there were just little juvenile delinquents, yeah.

RD: And what was your main form of recreation at Heart Mountain?

KS: Boy Scouts.

RD: I know, but did you have, were you on any of the ball teams?

KS: Oh, yeah. Our grammar school, I was in the sixth, seventh... sixth grade. The seventh grade they had just finished building the high school, so we transferred over from Block 28 barracks, which was the sixth grade. And at that time we had a grammar school football and baseball league which I was a part of. I was in my Block 28 sixth grade football team and baseball team, and we played all the other grammar schools in the camp, I mean, yeah, grammar schools in the camp.

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