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JS: What other activities... oh, you were talking about Boy Scouts. Can you tell us a little bit about that?

KM: Oh, Boy Scouts, oh, yeah. Troop 13 headquarters was in the Christian church. Buddhist church didn't have any Boy Scouts things, I don't know why. And oh, I used to ride my bicycle to the meetings. And, of course, we had to go through all the merit badges, we had to go on a fourteen-mile hike. We went to Kearney Park, it's seven miles up and seven miles back. And we didn't have any water. Nowadays, you have bottled water, there was no bottled water then. So we walked without any water all the way up, all the way back. Of course, Kearney Park was nice because it had palm trees and all kinds of trees, and a lot of shade. But it was a long walk, long, dry walk.

JS: And who was your troop leader?

KM: My troop leader was Mr. Frank Farrar, manager of Safeway in Fresno. And I remember one time we went to one of the scout gatherings, and we had to come home back to the church, and there was just one car, his car. And we piled in, thirteen kids in that car. [Laughs] No safety law back then, so thirteen kids really crowded in.

TI: And he drove you home?

KM: No, he drove us back to the church.

TI: Oh, back to the church, I see.

KM: Which wasn't very far, yeah. About a mile. Better than walking, so... Friday, either the first or the last Friday of the month, he'd bring us hot dogs, bought wieners and buns and all the goodies.

TI: So you mentioned that the troop was headquartered out of the Christian church?

KM: At the Christian, yeah.

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