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DG: So after that, you then came back to Sacramento and started working for the state?

HS: Uh-huh.

DG: First as a clerk. And was it always in the employment department?

HS: Yes, but I worked for the unemployment insurance appeals board. That's quasi-judicial work, and what we did was conduct hearings for claimants whose appeals were denied.

DG: Was that in --

HS: Whose claims were denied, so they appealed to, to the higher authority.

DG: And what did you do as part of that? What was your job?

HS: Well, as manager, seemed like I did everything. [Laughs] I had to, we had about eleven or twelve appeals offices up and down the state, and so I would have to conduct meetings for the supervisors, any time.

DG: So you managed all of those?

HS: Pardon?

DG: You managed all of those?

HS: Yep.

DG: Wow. You must've dealt with a lot of angry people. Were the people who were --

HS: My work was managing the appeals offices located up and down the state. I didn't actually meet the claimants.

DG: Got it.

HS: But we did got a lot of nasty letters from claimants. [Laughs] And you know, I felt sorry for them, because they were hard up.

DG: Yeah, you knew what that was like. So when did you start that work, in the '50s?

HS: Yes, I guess it was '60s.

DG: And that's what you retired from?

HS: Uh-huh.

DG: So how long --

HS: I retired from the unemployment insurance appeals board.

DG: And when did you retire?

HS: 1994.

DG: So you did that a long time.

HS: Yep, about forty-four years.

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