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DG: I have a question about how the Holland Doshi Kai got organized. What was the purpose?

GH: It's a social, social purpose.

DG: For adults.

GH: Yeah.

DG: Who had gone to the Gakuen? Or just who lived in the area?

SH: No, this was after war, so it's the new group of people. See, this was when we were gettin' to know everybody again, and so that's what it was for.

GH: Well, during the war it was mostly Clarksburg people and farmers, used to get together over there, kind of a social group.

SH: But then after war everybody was looking for a place to stay and work, and so we had a lot of, new group of people that came to work for these Caucasian farmers, and so that's why it was formed.

DG: And for the Tokunagas. And how many people joined the Doshi Kai?

SH: How many joined Doshi Kai at first?

GH: You mean when, before?

DG: After --

SH: No, no, no, after, after Doshi Kai formed.

GH: After Doshi Kai, there weren't too many.

DG: Twenty? Forty? Sixty?

SH: Gee, let's see...

GH: Yeah, forty, fifty.

SH: Maybe. [Stands up, moves off camera]

JS: She's gonna go to her...

DG: What are you doin', Sachi?

SH: These are the people. [Holding photo] Yeah, there was about forty.

JS: In the original group?

DG: Can you go sit back down and show that so we can look at it?

SH: This one?

DG: Over here.

SH: Like this? [Holds up photo]

JS: Uh-huh.

DG: So that's a trip that the Doshi Kai took together?

SH: Yes.

DG: Where were you going?

SH: We were on the Sacramento River.

GH: Where is that, on the ship?

SH: Uh-huh.

DG: And that looks like that's about twenty people.

SH: Yeah, might be about twenty, but then there were more than this.

GH: Yeah, all of 'em didn't come.

DG: When was that, would you say?

SH: Let's see... I would say, I think most of these, of them are all gone now. They're all deceased now, except for a few handful.

DG: What other kinds of trips would you take, or activities would you do with the Doshi --

SH: We'd go to Reno, we'd go to San Francisco. Where else did we go?

GH: Pewter Creek.

SH: Huh? Oh, Pewter Creek.

JS: In the '80s then, '70s or '80s maybe?

SH: Yeah.

GH: We went to, you know that, San Francisco's, in April, they have that...

JS: Sakurakai, Sakura Matsuri.

GH: Sakura Matsuri.

SH: Most of 'em are gone.

GH: We used to go to a program, Japanese program, sakura. Well, Sam Seki knows where to get the tickets, so used to get us...

DG: Did you go to that senior breakfast?

GH: Senior breakfast?

DG: At the cherry blossoms?

SH: No.

GH: No, we didn't go to the senior breakfast. Well, Seki lived there, so we'd stay over there, we'd have our breakfast there.

DG: Oh, nice.

GH: Her sister's, you know.

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