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Title: Kay Uno Kaneko - Hana Shepard - Mae Matsuzaki Interview
Narrators: Kay Uno Kaneko - Hana Shepard - Mae Matsuzaki
Interviewer: Loni Ding
Location: Hawaii
Date: December 2, 1985
Densho ID: denshovh-kkay_g-01-0004

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LD: How did your mother feel about what was happening with your two brothers on both sides of the war? Would you talk a little bit about that? Tell us a little bit about your brothers.

HS: Mae, you said something that I thought was kind of insightful about that.

MM: Well, I felt that Mother felt that they were all doing what they should do, and she never let us know that she was all worried about them or anything like that. She had a great deal of faith and she prayed every day and read the bible. And she didn't share he worries with us about the boys.

LD: Do you think she wasn't worried about them?

MM: If she was, she never showed it. She just said that God will take care of them. And she said for us to read the bible, and she would faithfully read the bible and pray a lot.

LD: You feel that your mother was [inaudible].

KK: Oh, yeah. I think, being a mother, she was worried about all of us, and of the boys. And she thought a lot of them, and as Mae said, she did do a lot of praying and all, but I think there was an incident -- see, I was the youngest, and being in these small, confined quarters in Amache, they had made a double bed, and so Mother and I slept together in that part of the room. And she used to dream, and a lot of her dreams were quite insightful, almost... what would you say? Well, one incident that I remember, she woke up and she seemed very calm and she seemed kind of happy. And she turned to me and she said, "Oh, everything's going to be all right. And I said, "Well, what do you mean?" And she says, "Oh, about Buddy and Howard. They have met." And this was even before we even knew that they had met. But she had dreamt that somehow they had met in a peaceful way, and she told me that. Another thing she had told me before we even knew about it, was that Buddy had had a boy, a baby boy. And the Red Cross later confirmed this with a telegram saying that Katsumaru had been born. But my mother had this thing about her that sometimes... and they were a little different, but they were just feelings. So there were, oh, there were about three or four times in my lifetime and with my mother that she had said things to me, and they were usually things that she was really worried about and she prayed about, and all of a sudden she'd have some insight about it and she'd be calm, and she'd tell me, "Oh, this is going to be all right."

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