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SY: Now tell me your, you have how many children?

KS: I had one. She passed away at the age of nineteen. I have a stepdaughter right now, and I enjoy her relationship very much.

SY: And she --

KS: She's from her first marriage. She was a daughter of the first marriage from her, from her first marriage.

SY: And they're the ones that, she's the one that has the two, the children that you've given...

KS: Yeah, she's the one that had the one child with me, but that child's the one that passed away. She has her original daughter, which, she's, we still see each other quite often.

SY: And she has the children, the grandchildren, your grandchildren?

KS: No, no. The, she's childless and she's not married, so she has a, I don't know how I can put this thing where it won't get out into the public too much, but her father has a certain genetic condition that she didn't want to have other children because of it. So she refused to have children.

SY: Yeah.

KS: So she refused to get married. [Laughs] I imagine she will, but then she just won't be in a position where she can't, she will want to have children.

SY: I see.

KS: She, she relates to children very well. She can, she can create a soccer game with a bunch of hoodlums out there in Perris area, get them to work like a team and socialize like a real team, and she has that command, ability.

SY: That's great.

KS: I used to help her out with that out there in Perris, but those kids, I mean, you leave them on their own, probably every one of 'em would be in prison right now. But then when she got them under her hands, her control, and formed this team and all that stuff, they work like a charm. They respect her like a charm. They think she walks on water, and I says, "Oh, great. That's good." [Laughs]

SY: That is nice. And your, I mean, do you see in them anything that you... or are there things that you see in your, in your own...

KS: Among the grandchildren, they're my current wife's kids and their offspring are all grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

SY: I see, so they're not, they're not blood necessarily.

KS: No, I'm not blood related to any of the children in that group.

SY: I see. Okay.

KS: Kay, which is the only one that I'm indirectly related because I'm married to her mother, and she's the only one that, she did pick up on some things that I do and she kicks it back at me at times. She says, "Well, you're a fine one to tell me about working around the clock and all this sort of thing," and says, "I'm doing exactly what you do." I said, "Well, don't do what I do. Do what I tell you to do." [Laughs]

SY: So that's what you do. You're a workaholic, huh?

KS: I'm a workaholic. I don't, I mean, I don't work all night every night, but I do occasionally when I've got something going. I may work around the clock and I crash, and then I may sleep all day and go back and start all over, continue on. [Laughs] And my daughter, that daughter is also a workaholic in that sense. She's, if you want to make an appointment, luncheon appointment with her, I have to notify her four months ahead of time 'cause she's got to find a space in her book. "Oh, here's a space." [Laughs]

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