Densho Digital Archive
Emiko and Chizuko Omori Collection
Title: Jim Hirabayashi Interview
Narrator: Jim Hirabayashi
Interviewers: Chizu Omori (primary), Emiko Omori (secondary)
Location: San Francisco, California
Date: October 2, 1992
Densho ID: denshovh-hjim-01-0010

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JH: Yeah, I guess when I was growing up I had a reputation of being sort of mischievous, I guess. I remember one time visiting up in Seattle when there was a reunion, and this Mr. Katsuno, who I said is still alive in Keiro home at 108 years of age. This must have been when he was maybe closer to 98 or so. We went to this reunion and I said, "Well, Mr. Katsuno, I'm James," when I saw him at the reunion. And he looked at me and he says, "Oh, that itazura no ko. That mischievous kid." I remember being told that when I was young, I'd go over to his place, and walk on his hotbed frames and I'd turn on the spigot to his gas tank that he stored for, that had gas for his tractor, I'd turn the spigot on and leave it on and things like this. So that they would say, "Here he comes, here he comes." And I had that kind of a reputation. But when I was in camp, in the first place, the family had already changed a little bit in view of the fact that Gordon was no longer with us inasmuch as he did not go with the family to the camp. Then, soon, my older, next older brother, Ed, signed a contract out into, to go out to do farm work out in Ogden, Utah. And he didn't last too long on the farm. He moved into Salt Lake City to work in a restaurant. And then with the help of the Quakers and the student relocation program, he got admitted to Guilford College, which is a Quaker College in North Carolina. And so he was soon gone. Then soon after that, my brother's trial started in Seattle, so that the deputies came down and took my parents up to Seattle to attend the trial. And during their absence is when I left for Idaho to work in farm work myself. So that the family sort of disintegrated almost immediately upon entering camp. And as I said, I no longer ate with my parents; I ate with my peers. And so I spent most of my time outside of the family circle. And did a lot of things that I didn't normally do and wouldn't have done had the family stayed together. So, and then when we went out to Idaho, it was myself with my father's friends for a while, and then just my father and myself during the winter before the, what was left of the family came back together. And then after a couple of years... yeah, in two years in Idaho, we moved up to Spokane. And that was at the very end of the war so that I attended John Rogers High School and graduated from there in Spokane in 1945 right before the end of the war.

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