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GS: December 7, 1942 is Pearl Harbor.

Off camera: That's wrong, it's 1941.

GS: Oh, it is 1941, you're right. December 7, 1941, was Pearl Harbor Day. What do you remember doing on that day?

TS: Well, I was taking the ferry to Seattle to visit my friend that morning. I didn't know there was anything going on until I got to his house. And he was listening to a radio and he told me what had happened.

GS: And were you treated differently on the ferry by other people?

TS: No, no, there was nothing unusual at all, it was just the usual. I just came home on the ferry and took the bus back to the house.

GS: During that time, there were FBI roundups of Japanese during that time. Do you remember any of those roundups?

TS: No, no, no, I...

GS: And at that time, shortly thereafter, there was an Exclusion Order Number 1. Do you remember anything about that order which ordered you to leave the island?

TS: Well, I don't remember too well because I wasn't in contact with Japanese people on the island, so you might say my future wife, she told me about it, and that's about it.

GS: What were your memories about preparing to leave to go to, in this case, Manzanar?

TS: Well, I don't remember too much except that it was kind of a sad looking bunch of people that came down from, they were the visitors for the people leaving and they were having little conversations, quietly.

GS: And do you remember your future wife's family, the Kobas, did they have land at that time, or a house that they had to make arrangements for?

TS: Yeah, they arranged to have a Filipino family to take care of the house and the farm for them while they were gone.

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