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DG: And let's see, there was... I wanted to ask you about the move from Manzanar to Minidoka. Why did you choose or ask to be moved?

KN: Well, the California people were more sophisticated, and you know, we were just country bumpkins. So we felt like we needed to be closer to more of the Puget Sound area people, Seattle folks, so this is why. And some of the kids were getting very, younger kids, were getting very uncontrollable, so it worked out okay. But there were a few families that did not go.

DG: But as a community, many...

KN: Yes, yes, uh-huh. And they were good, they transferred us as we requested.

DG: And how was Minidoka when you arrived?

KN: It was different. It was cold in the winter. Oh, my goodness, it was cold. When our Bruce was born and then, in December, and the water tower, you know how the water leaks a little bit? The icicles hanging there were dangerous weapons -- they were huge. That's how cold it was in Idaho in the winter. So we used to come in camp during the winter, then we'd go back when the weather got better, and we'd stay out on the ranch. So we were in and out.

DG: And you talked about Bruce, and so he, you were pregnant and gave birth to him in Minidoka?

KN: We got engaged in Manzanar, got married in camp -- well, not in camp exactly -- we got a permit to go out to Twin Falls and got married, then we came in. That was in March.

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