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DG: Let me ask you a little bit about Sam. We're kind of skipping around here, but I do know, can you tell me about Sam's family right around the war was declared, and the FBI round-ups, did that affect his family?

KN: I don't think they took his dad, I'm not too sure. By then -- see, he's the youngest of eight kids, so he was home with the folks. So, of course, what was hard was when he sold the farm, all that acreage, his new home, because they built in 1941, and they were in there only six months when the war broke out. And so when we sold -- by that time, I was married, when we sold -- he sold the farm equipment, the new house, furnishings, everything for... when you think about it now, it was very, very, very reasonable and cheap.

DG: And I think you answered this a little bit before, but what was his, why did he have to do that?

KN: Oh, because it was hard to get the farm back. The manager was making it very hard for us to get it back. So instead of having lots of problems and having fights and everything, we thought it's better to sell, so this is why we sold.

DG: And was it Sam's... Sam had older brothers, though, at this time. Were they all grown and gone?

KN: Yeah, he had an older brother that was married to a lady from Silverdale. They had an oyster farm and a farm. So he was away from home, so Sam was the one that was taking care of the parents.

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