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TL: As George became more recognized as an artist, what kind of impact did that have on your relationship and your family?

AT: No difference. It was continuation of family life. He was busier and we had people working for George 'cause he couldn't do all the work so it was pretty busy time he was doing some of these big bronze sculpture fountains for quite a few years and children all grew up in this atmosphere.

TL: You've mentioned that there were a number of trips that you took, either the two of you or perhaps your whole family, and I'm wondering if you might talk a little bit about your memories of those trips.

AT: George took a sabbatical from the university, and I thought since he didn't have chance to see Europe, I thought, "Well, it's good time for him to see what the other side is like," so I arranged for a trip around the globe with local a Japanese travel agent, George Kawaguchi. And so we started from going that way to the east and went -- no, no. Excuse me, that was another trip. We went from here to Japan and then to India and Cambodia and went around the other way and came back. I don't know how long it took, about one month? More than a month, little bit more than month, I think. That was our big trip and I thought it was a very good trip for George 'cause he did many sketches, and he saw other big museums, and I think that may have broadened his vision about art.

TL: How about for you because this was also a first opportunity to do that kind of traveling?

AT: Uh-huh. I was just tagging along, but I was carrying all the tickets and all his money. [Laughs]

TL: Taking the pictures for the camera?

AT: Took all the pictures. We have hundreds of pictures.

TL: I think perhaps you've mentioned that was there also another trip where the whole family went or several other trips, maybe to Mexico?

AT: Yes. I thought trip was really good for the children so we did take them on a trip as often as possible, and we did take advantage of his vacation time and went to Mexico and gave children opportunity to travel, too, if they wanted to.

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