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BK: So, now, where were you born?

JT: I was born in Petersburg and my brother was born in Seattle. So he was born in Seattle in 1921, I believe it was. And then after that, they went to Petersburg, apparently, 'cause I was born there in 1926, then...

BK: And your older sister had joined the family here in Seattle before you all went up to Petersburg?

JT: That's right, she did, uh-huh. I understand she came over when she was sixteen, and as I say in 1922, and so, and since she's so much older than I, me, she and my mother had secrets but I don't know anything about all that. They always, everything was kept from the little kids and my name was "Baby" for the longest time, they called me "Baby." So they always tried to protect us or always whispered when they were talking about things they thought I should not hear.

BT: So up in Petersburg, then, it was mom, your dad and your mother, and then your older sister and your brother...

JT: And my brother, uh-huh. Who must have, my brother must have been just in his early toddling age or something like that when they went to Petersburg, because I do have some pictures with him on the lap and I wasn't there, so it was before 1926 and after 1921. [Laughs]

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